Madli ,did you delete the article after all? because it no longer shows anythingMadli wrote: ↑27 Jun 2022, 23:08 Adriana- there is some info about the storklets.
https://ciconianigra.sk/viewtopic.php?p=5382#p5382
EDIT: I see that some posts popped up while I was writing here
I will not delete my post, but it's un nescessary to open.
Jõgeva County (Jan and Janika)
Re: Jõgeva County (Jan and Janika)
Re: Jõgeva County (Jan and Janika)
I didn't delete itAdria wrote: ↑27 Jun 2022, 23:23Madli ,did you delete the article after all? because it no longer shows anythingMadli wrote: ↑27 Jun 2022, 23:08 Adriana- there is some info about the storklets.
https://ciconianigra.sk/viewtopic.php?p=5382#p5382
EDIT: I see that some posts popped up while I was writing here
I will not delete my post, but it's un nescessary to open.
It should be here:
https://ciconianigra.sk/viewtopic.php?p=5382#p5382
Re: Jõgeva County (Jan and Janika)
It works, thanks to MadliMadli wrote: ↑27 Jun 2022, 23:28I didn't delete itAdria wrote: ↑27 Jun 2022, 23:23Madli ,did you delete the article after all? because it no longer shows anythingMadli wrote: ↑27 Jun 2022, 23:08 Adriana- there is some info about the storklets.
https://ciconianigra.sk/viewtopic.php?p=5382#p5382
EDIT: I see that some posts popped up while I was writing here
I will not delete my post, but it's un nescessary to open.
It should be here:
https://ciconianigra.sk/viewtopic.php?p=5382#p5382
Re: Jõgeva County (Jan and Janika)
JUNE 28
OVERVIEW JUNE 27 viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22&start=1620
OVERVIEW of the season 2022: viewtopic.php?p=839#p839
TRIO of the SAVED CHICKS was in the vet clinic of University of Life Sciences in Tartu
(14.06) viewtopic.php?p=4608#p4608
(15.06) viewtopic.php?p=4732#p4732
(17.06) viewtopic.php?p=4817#p4817
+
(by Urmas) viewtopic.php?p=4830#p4830
27.6 - newest news about "our" storklets
Original article: https://www.ohtuleht.ee/1065178/tagasi- ... upoegadeks
translation by our Madli viewtopic.php?p=5406#p5406
AGE of the chicks:
- 1st + 2nd + 3rd: 37 day old
streaming from the clinic ended 27.6.2022 at 21.05 (chicks are in outdoor nest in vet clinic, there isn't camera)
OVERVIEW JUNE 27 viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22&start=1620
OVERVIEW of the season 2022: viewtopic.php?p=839#p839
TRIO of the SAVED CHICKS was in the vet clinic of University of Life Sciences in Tartu
(14.06) viewtopic.php?p=4608#p4608
(15.06) viewtopic.php?p=4732#p4732
(17.06) viewtopic.php?p=4817#p4817
+
(by Urmas) viewtopic.php?p=4830#p4830
27.6 - newest news about "our" storklets
Original article: https://www.ohtuleht.ee/1065178/tagasi- ... upoegadeks
translation by our Madli viewtopic.php?p=5406#p5406
AGE of the chicks:
- 1st + 2nd + 3rd: 37 day old
streaming from the clinic ended 27.6.2022 at 21.05 (chicks are in outdoor nest in vet clinic, there isn't camera)
Re: Jõgeva County (Jan and Janika)
Full article translated:
https://www.ohtuleht.ee/1065178/tagasi- ... poegadeks#
Back to the nature
"If everything goes well, then on Tuesday night, rather at night, I would try to take a black stork's son to the nest equipped with a webcam. Then we can see what's going on there. There is still a small risk, because if something goes wrong, the whole world can see, but all this needs to be explained, ”says Urmas Sellis, the coordinator of the Estonian Eagle Club.
What to do now?
The clinic made sure that the little down-feathered storklets did not come into contact with anyone. A doll imitating a female bird was placed next to the incubator, and the hand of the feeder was also disguised as a stork's bill. Although the chicks recovered, there were concerns about how to proceed with them. Practically the only option was to distribute the chicks fed in the clinic to other nests, because no one in the incubator can distribute the wisdom to the chicks. In addition, bird researchers have found that young birds that grow up in a real nest develop slightly faster than human birds.
"As a rule, old birds do not sleep at the nest," explains Sellis why the chicks are taken to the nest at night. "They are sleeping somewhere near the feeding place so they can start looking for food early in the morning. The other thing is that if you put the chick in the nest in the evening, the other nestlings will calm down in the morning and they won't have any issues with each other. "
"The most risky part is the first meeting of the parents with the stepson, we don't know how they will react," Sellis describes the biggest fear. "We imagine and hope, and they probably won't even notice that maybe there are four instead of three sons, but you never know. We can't put ourselves in their heads. "
Birds receive food aid
If the members of the Eagle Club usually visit the black stork's nest somewhere in the summer, when the chicks are already older and there is no fear that the old birds will abandon the nest, then this year the observations had to be made earlier.
"The initial plan was that if there are fewer chicks in a nest, such as two, you would prefer to put it there," says Sellis. "All the nests we have inspected have three sons. We also need to pay attention to the nutritional opportunities around us. We have the opportunity to provide extra food in two nests in Karula.(edit: one chick goes to Eedi's nest? And there might be also 3 chicks inside already..) If we see from the cameras that the birds go to the nest with food too rarely, we will add fish and other things to the prepared places. That way we can alleviate the possible food shortage a bit. ”
Text under the photo:
HOPES THE BEST: Urmas Sellis, the coordinator of the Estonian Eagle Club, hopes that the old birds of the black stork will not start counting the chicks and one morning they will feed their stepchild in addition to their three sons.
"This year, black storks have been feeding well, at least in nests equipped with a camera," Such is pleased with the current situation. "There has been rain and a lot of snow, which has probably given them the opportunity to raise three sons. Not six, as it was at the beginning in the nest from which we took the orphans. If the father bird hadn't disappeared there and fed him normally, I imagine there would be at least four sons, if not five. "
Under the eyes of the whole world
Bird nesting cameras are not only popular in Estonia, they are monitored all over the world. "Our main communication is in English, and we don't know what is spoken in other languages," says Sellis. Therefore, he plans to enlighten the whole event in advance and to write honestly why and how it is done in the forum of bird lovers.
According to him, all thoughts were still moving in the direction of bringing black storks back to nature. According to him, there are only a dozen pairs of black storks in Estonia who at least lay eggs in the nest.
"For comparison, it is conceivable that if ten families of Estonians lived in Estonia, could we talk about the sustainability of Estonians?" He asks. "Even if we have 500 pairs of little lesser spotted eagles and we would compare them to Estonians? Some say there are already too many and there is no need to protect them. "
So it is no wonder that nature friends handle such rarities very carefully. Only a few and very reliable people know where a dozen black storks nests are located. The public is only told that they are somewhere in Jõgeva County and Karula area.
https://www.ohtuleht.ee/1065178/tagasi- ... poegadeks#
Back to the nature
"If everything goes well, then on Tuesday night, rather at night, I would try to take a black stork's son to the nest equipped with a webcam. Then we can see what's going on there. There is still a small risk, because if something goes wrong, the whole world can see, but all this needs to be explained, ”says Urmas Sellis, the coordinator of the Estonian Eagle Club.
What to do now?
The clinic made sure that the little down-feathered storklets did not come into contact with anyone. A doll imitating a female bird was placed next to the incubator, and the hand of the feeder was also disguised as a stork's bill. Although the chicks recovered, there were concerns about how to proceed with them. Practically the only option was to distribute the chicks fed in the clinic to other nests, because no one in the incubator can distribute the wisdom to the chicks. In addition, bird researchers have found that young birds that grow up in a real nest develop slightly faster than human birds.
"As a rule, old birds do not sleep at the nest," explains Sellis why the chicks are taken to the nest at night. "They are sleeping somewhere near the feeding place so they can start looking for food early in the morning. The other thing is that if you put the chick in the nest in the evening, the other nestlings will calm down in the morning and they won't have any issues with each other. "
"The most risky part is the first meeting of the parents with the stepson, we don't know how they will react," Sellis describes the biggest fear. "We imagine and hope, and they probably won't even notice that maybe there are four instead of three sons, but you never know. We can't put ourselves in their heads. "
Birds receive food aid
If the members of the Eagle Club usually visit the black stork's nest somewhere in the summer, when the chicks are already older and there is no fear that the old birds will abandon the nest, then this year the observations had to be made earlier.
"The initial plan was that if there are fewer chicks in a nest, such as two, you would prefer to put it there," says Sellis. "All the nests we have inspected have three sons. We also need to pay attention to the nutritional opportunities around us. We have the opportunity to provide extra food in two nests in Karula.(edit: one chick goes to Eedi's nest? And there might be also 3 chicks inside already..) If we see from the cameras that the birds go to the nest with food too rarely, we will add fish and other things to the prepared places. That way we can alleviate the possible food shortage a bit. ”
Text under the photo:
HOPES THE BEST: Urmas Sellis, the coordinator of the Estonian Eagle Club, hopes that the old birds of the black stork will not start counting the chicks and one morning they will feed their stepchild in addition to their three sons.
"This year, black storks have been feeding well, at least in nests equipped with a camera," Such is pleased with the current situation. "There has been rain and a lot of snow, which has probably given them the opportunity to raise three sons. Not six, as it was at the beginning in the nest from which we took the orphans. If the father bird hadn't disappeared there and fed him normally, I imagine there would be at least four sons, if not five. "
Under the eyes of the whole world
Bird nesting cameras are not only popular in Estonia, they are monitored all over the world. "Our main communication is in English, and we don't know what is spoken in other languages," says Sellis. Therefore, he plans to enlighten the whole event in advance and to write honestly why and how it is done in the forum of bird lovers.
According to him, all thoughts were still moving in the direction of bringing black storks back to nature. According to him, there are only a dozen pairs of black storks in Estonia who at least lay eggs in the nest.
"For comparison, it is conceivable that if ten families of Estonians lived in Estonia, could we talk about the sustainability of Estonians?" He asks. "Even if we have 500 pairs of little lesser spotted eagles and we would compare them to Estonians? Some say there are already too many and there is no need to protect them. "
So it is no wonder that nature friends handle such rarities very carefully. Only a few and very reliable people know where a dozen black storks nests are located. The public is only told that they are somewhere in Jõgeva County and Karula area.
Re: Jõgeva County (Jan and Janika)
There is also information from Urmas in the LK forum:
https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... c6#p865976
In general, media has informed already about possible event this night at Karula nest. There are small journalistic mistakes, but main idea is already written.
It depends on weather at evening, hopefully no thunderstorm raises. So final decision will be made late afternoon, we would not to travel too long with stork chick, but rather directly from clinic to Karula (that is about hour and half to drive). In almost darkness will climb to nest and place chick there between others. As we ordered for orphaned chicks the transmitters, the both rings will be in the beginning only on added chick to determine it easily in cam view. All chicks will be weight and measured. And will be visited again in time of installing the transmitter.
If the conditions are not favorable, we postpone transition by tomorrow. Anyway, after transition I will stay nearby for night and somebody will check the action in camera nest. If needed I can climb up again and take that fourth chick back. Hope it will be no case. So documentation in forum would be helpful.
Other two will be placed in other nests, one possible is Eedis nest, because this pair is relatively easy to feed extra. Third nest is under selection, yet. But in all nest we know by now, there are three chicks.
https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... c6#p865976
In general, media has informed already about possible event this night at Karula nest. There are small journalistic mistakes, but main idea is already written.
It depends on weather at evening, hopefully no thunderstorm raises. So final decision will be made late afternoon, we would not to travel too long with stork chick, but rather directly from clinic to Karula (that is about hour and half to drive). In almost darkness will climb to nest and place chick there between others. As we ordered for orphaned chicks the transmitters, the both rings will be in the beginning only on added chick to determine it easily in cam view. All chicks will be weight and measured. And will be visited again in time of installing the transmitter.
If the conditions are not favorable, we postpone transition by tomorrow. Anyway, after transition I will stay nearby for night and somebody will check the action in camera nest. If needed I can climb up again and take that fourth chick back. Hope it will be no case. So documentation in forum would be helpful.
Other two will be placed in other nests, one possible is Eedis nest, because this pair is relatively easy to feed extra. Third nest is under selection, yet. But in all nest we know by now, there are three chicks.
Re: Jõgeva County (Jan and Janika)
Madli, many thanks for the translation! Super job!
Re: Jõgeva County (Jan and Janika)
Hello everyone.
Thus the life of the chicks ends and they will be divided. The chicks are waiting for a busy evening today, ie at least one chick. I hope it will be number 2, he is the bravest and he could do it best. There are many ways this can turn out, we hope for the best option. He'll be under camera surveillance, so if it's twisted in a negative way, he'll be hit.
Thank you all for taking care of our orphans so far and it will be on nature as it goes. We keep our fingers crossed!
Thus the life of the chicks ends and they will be divided. The chicks are waiting for a busy evening today, ie at least one chick. I hope it will be number 2, he is the bravest and he could do it best. There are many ways this can turn out, we hope for the best option. He'll be under camera surveillance, so if it's twisted in a negative way, he'll be hit.
Thank you all for taking care of our orphans so far and it will be on nature as it goes. We keep our fingers crossed!