Black storks on white stork nests

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Black storks on white stork nests

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I'll try to move information from other threads here and add the latest sightings

Diesen jungen Schwarzstorch, haben wir aufgrund einer Ständerverletzung ab August 2023 in der Wildvogelhilfe gepflegt. Am 8. März 2024 konnte er wieder ausgewildert werden. / We have been caring for this young black stork in the wild bird rescue center since August 2023 due to a leg injury. He was released back into the wild on March 8, 2024.
marika.solo wrote: 15 Mar 2024, 22:29 GERMANY - Wensickendorf

black stork observed in white storch nest
UrszulaMN wrote: 15 Mar 2024, 20:30 The black stork was in the nest today in Wensickendorf.
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I've been checking there since the morning and... he came in for the night.
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https://www.nabu-oranienburg.de/artensc ... jahr-2024/

Sorry if I posted in the wrong place.
Wensickendorf - a village incorporated in the town of Oranienburg, Oberhavel district, Brandenburg state, Germany

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VIDEO by our forum member Urszula NM
Bocian Czarny w Wensickendorf - Bocian czarny blisko ludzi / Black Stork in Wensickendorf - Black stork close to people
marika.solo wrote: 22 Mar 2024, 14:32 GERMANY - Wensickendorf

on May 19 I checked the nest again, the BS spent there the night
https://www.nabu-oranienburg.de/artensc ... jahr-2024/

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VIDEO by our forum member Urszula NM
Bocian Czarny w Wensickendorf - Oszroniony bocian/Black Stork in Wensickendorf - Frosted stork

marika.solo wrote: 22 Mar 2024, 14:35 GERMANY - Wensickendorf

FB photos of this stork posted in FB Klapper- Treff

March 20
https://www.nabu-oranienburg.de/artensc ... jahr-2024/

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by Sylvia Weber https://www.facebook.com/groups/3137442 ... 007148717/

March 21
https://www.nabu-oranienburg.de/artensc ... jahr-2024/

"The black one" just came with a stick and worked on the nest. 😍

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more photos https://www.facebook.com/groups/3137442 ... 347084883/
by Sylvia Weber

I checked the nest in the late evening - no stork on the nest

EDIT:
Roland Heigel, bird expert from Wensickendorf: “In Oberhavel – more in the south – there are even breeding areas ... "
(https://www.maz-online.de/lokales/oberh ... 425FQ.html)
marika.solo wrote: 24 Mar 2024, 16:10 GERMANY - Wensickendorf

27.09.2023
https://www.instagram.com/nabu.oranienb ... tP56oNGGp/

Am 17.08. nahmen wir einen sehr stark geschwächten jungen Schwarzstorch auf. Er hatte eine Ständerverletzung und das Gefieder war voller Parasitten. Am 20.08. übergaben wir den Vogel an die Tierarztpraxis Rafael, wo er von Frau Grasnick versorgt wurde. Am 23.09. konnte er wieder zu uns in Pflege genommen werden. Die Verletzungen am Ständer sind gut verheilt. Den Winter wird er bei uns verbringen müssen, bis er voraussichtlich im Frühjahr ausgewildert werden kann.


On August 17th we took in a very weak young black stork. He had a bone injury and his feathers were full of parasites. On August 20th We handed the bird over to the Rafael veterinary practice, where it was cared for by Ms. Grasnick. On September 23rd he could be taken back into our care. The injuries to the stand have healed well. He will have to spend the winter with us until he can probably be released into the wild in the spring.

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FB https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 000&type=3
Am 17.08. nahmen wir einen sehr stark geschwächten jungen Schwarzstorch auf. Er hatte eine Ständerverletzung und das Gefieder war voller Parasitten. Am 20.08. übergaben wir den Vogel an die Tierarztpraxis Rafael, wo er von Frau Grasnick versorgt wurde. Am 23.09. konnte er wieder zu uns in Pflege genommen werden. Die Verletzungen am Ständer sind gut verheilt. Den Winter wird er bei uns verbringen müssen, bis er voraussichtlich im Frühjahr ausgewildert werden kann.

On August 17th we took in a very weak young black stork. It had an injury to its rump and its plumage was full of parasites. On August 20th we handed the bird over to Rafael's veterinary practice, where it was cared for by Ms. Grasnick. On September 23rd it was able to be taken back into our care. The injuries to its rump have healed well. It will have to spend the winter with us until it can probably be released into the wild in the spring.
marika.solo wrote: 24 Mar 2024, 16:14 GERMANY - Wensickendorf

09.03.2024
https://www.instagram.com/nabu.oranienb ... mg_index=1

Seit 17. August 2023 ist dieser Schwarzstorch aufgrund einer Ständerverletzung bei uns in Pflege. Die Tierarztpraxis DVM R. Rafael & C. Grasnick versorgte die Verletzungen. Die Wintermonate hat der Storch gut überstanden. Seine Flugmuskulatur war sehr gut ausgebildet und so konnte er am 8. März 2024 in die Freiheit entlassen werden.

This black stork has been in our care since August 17, 2023 due to a bone injury. The veterinary practice DVM R. Rafael & C. Grasnick treated the injuries. The stork survived the winter months well. His flight muscles were very well developed and so he was released into the wild on March 8, 2024.

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marika.solo wrote: 24 Mar 2024, 16:17 GERMANY - Wensickendorf
is this the same stork? (this one released?)

March 14
https://www.instagram.com/nabu.oranienb ... gBz8vt_pD/

Storchenkamera auf unserer Website ist wieder online und nun auch mit Live-Feed bereit für die kommende Brutsaison. www.nabu-oranienburg.de - Derzeit sind die eigentlichen Bewohner noch nicht eingetroffen und der Horst wird von anderen genutzt.

Stork camera on our website is online again and now with a live feed, ready for the coming breeding season. www.nabu-oranienburg.de - The actual residents have not yet arrived and the nest is being used by others.
(02.01.2024 Two Egyptian geese have visited the stork's nest in Wensickendorf. https://www.nabu-oranienburg.de/artensc ... jahr-2024/)

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marika.solo wrote: 26 Mar 2024, 15:44 GERMANY - Wensickendorf
https://www.nabu-oranienburg.de/artensc ... jahr-2024/

the nest owner is back
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btw. I haven't seen the black stork for several evenings
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I'll try to move information from other threads here - done
marika.solo wrote: 09 Mar 2023, 10:24 Black stork attacks white stork pair

video by our forum member Judit - thank you very much!

Hungen, DE - egy fekete gólya támadta meg a fehér gólyákat - 2023 03 09


I know only one similar case https://goris.lv/pavasara-jaunumi/ (very interesting reading in my opinion)

BS is visiting one white stork nest in Crevalcore, IT(also by our Judit):

Crevalcore, IT - egy fekete gólya pihent meg a fészekben - 2022 09 14


Crevalcore, IT - a hazaérkező fehér gólya elzavarja a fiatal fekete gólyát - 2022 12 03
marika.solo wrote: 09 Mar 2023, 18:37
Adria wrote: 09 Mar 2023, 11:57 That's interesting, I've never seen black storks compete for a nest with white storks :shock: .
the author of this video (Zsuzsa Wagner/macska) wrote, there where at least 5 attacks! (and later partner change in white stork)



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I know one similar case https://goris.lv/pavasara-jaunumi/ (very interesting reading by Dr. M.Strazds) and see next posts too
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I'll try to move information from other threads here - done
marika.solo wrote: 09 Mar 2023, 18:46 I have in my archive also this (source: https://www.niedersachsenstörche.de/BLACK-WHITE-WS-SS):

Nest von Weiß- u. Schwarzstorch in Steppach 2013 (Foto Edmund Lenz) - Nest of white and black stork in Steppach 2013 (Photo Edmund Lenz)

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marika.solo wrote: 10 Mar 2023, 06:53 continuation

(post by my friend Baska - Barbara Heidenrich):
"Wahnsinn ! Das ist vielleicht einer der beiden, die letztes Jahr in Pommersfelden-Steppach ein Nest auf einem Dach gebaut haben. Das liegt nämlich nur ca 8 km weiter nördlich.Der tolle Schnappschuss wurde übrigens von BARBARA aus Feathery Friends gemacht. Danke nochmal, liebe Barbara ! "
"Incredible! That's maybe one of the two who built a nest on a roof in Pommersfelden-Steppach last year. (Marika: preevious post) That's only about 8 km further north. By the way, the great snapshot was taken by BARBARA from Feathery Friends. Thanks again, Dear Barbara!"

08.03.2015
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(source: http://forum.storchenhof-papendorf.de/w ... #post71996)

(new soft material to the nest http://abload.de/img/h287u11.jpg, the WS pair in the nest http://abload.de/img/h38zugq.jpg)

(post by my friend Baska - Barbara Heidenrich)
Schon wieder !!! =) :rolleyes: BARBARA hatte wieder das Glück, ihn zu erwischen.
Already again !!! =) :rolleyes: BARBARA was lucky enough to catch him again.
13.03.2015
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(and the WS is back minute later https://abload.de/img/hbs2nsx5x.jpg)

( http://forum.storchenhof-papendorf.de/w ... /&pageNo=2)
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2024-04-10 LATVIA

posted: https://www.facebook.com/groups/blackst ... 627349347/

(GT)
PHOTO: How the black and white storks fight for the nest of the Skrunda Cultural Center
https://www.tv3.lv/dzivesstils/dzivniek ... 0LuVb0xe4g

"The exclusive one-room nest on the roof of the Skrunda House of Culture has been coveted by a black stork. The local storks are not going to give up so easily and give this joy to the black beauty," reports Skrunda's cultural work organizer Aivita Staneviča to the "tv3.lv" portal.

The fight for the nest in the city center has been going on for several days. "How this story will end is unknown. We will follow," reports Staneviča.

more photos - one of them:
https://tv3cdn.lv/thumbnails/1920x1920x ... scaled.jpg
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continuation

VIDEO shared and translated (what Dr.M.S. says) translated at my request by Guna Eglāja - big thank to you! :D
https://www.facebook.com/groups/blackst ... 1517202058


Although the white and black storks are from the same family, it can be figuratively said that they speak different languages ​​and do not understand each other. The result of such communication can be seen in Skrunda. The employees of the Skrunda Culture House were very surprised when they saw the black one in the white stork's nest. The whites have not been at peace with it. Who will really be the master of the nest?

Hello, here will be what Māris Strazds said:
Most likely, he is the only one not only in all of Latvia, but maybe also among the black storks that are alive at the moment. Perhaps that bird has grown up in a white stork's nest and identifies itself with a white stork, but biologically of course it is not. He has innate behavioural frames. Those white storks, whom he would like to cling to and maybe find a partner for himself, do not understand him. What black storks are roosting flight, the white one may perceive it as an attack and does not understand why the "black fool" is flying after him.

Marika:
such cases are increasing, albeit rarely, and are documented (last year there was also a joint nesting of a female black stork and a white male - 2 chicks successfully fledged https://www.ciconianigra.sk/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=128)
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ITALY - CREVALCORE
Real-time capture of the storks' nest in the protected area of the Ex-Sugar Factory Ponds of Crevalcore in the Province of Bologna
https://www.youtube.com/@susteniaecologiaapplicata4808

We are noticing here and there one black stork on the nest of one white stork couple (who are successfully nesting there) from autumn 2022

oasi ex zuccherificio Crevalcore - oasis former sugar mill Crevalcore

ECOLOGICAL REBALANCING AREA “EX-SUGAR MILL PONDS”
Flying over the former sugar mill area of Crevalcore's municipal assets, a natural oasis, surrounded by fields, the Valbona Canal to the east, and the industrial zone to the west. (August 2024)


by Roberto Bovina uploaded on Sep 8, 2024

videos (previous years) - I am gradually adding

2022
- 14.09 (ggjudit) a black stork rested in the nest https://youtu.be/x8d69am7Yj4?si=ZKYi3BZiXUTlt0a-
- 03.12 (ggjudit) the returning white stork scares away the young black stork https://youtu.be/Z2jlBZc5B_0?si=FN5XAS3pU2bbk_d1 and/or by macska https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2Srrp_L9PA
- 15.12 (macska) one black and two white https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lH1yzqP2hE
- 29.12 (macska) https://youtu.be/Iu953HphQm4?si=C_K7gmFVhYS0A6f4

2023
- 01.10 (macska) the handsome BS https://youtu.be/VybJ9hqbzHM?si=GPYbIq65xHBVdGF8
- 16.10 (ggjudit) this young black stork visits the nest of white storks again this year https://youtu.be/eiWgHsmNdTw?si=o-WF4SnHGWGtjZjb or/and (macska) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Afw3pcJKIc
- 28.11 (ggjudit) the usual change from black and white https://youtu.be/xcOsJJBki7M?si=NFj8teXZHwd0_m69
- 29.11 (macska) white vs. black https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz3MbOhy9nU

2024
- 07.01 (macska) black vs white https://youtu.be/q6YbRxESoQ4?si=V-00t_fQnNGN41qQ
- 08.02 (ggjudit)two guests, a white and a black stork, arrived at the nest at the same time https://youtu.be/e-ynP1kcLPg?si=z9e7Brv4eUDr6_pv and by macska https://youtu.be/xhzeFiDEPmY?si=AqQJdUEluOgo8mnq
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continuation

2025

Cicogne Vasche Ex Zuccherificio - streaming 2025 started on 31.01
https://www.youtube.com/live/zcw-QEyui1 ... KLzhwN7R2e
22.02.2025: This live stream recording is not available. :(

23.01
- Black stork is chasing the white storks by our forum member Macska


01.02
- fight for the nest by our forum member Macska


07.02
arrival
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Is he imitating white storks? (as if he wants to clap like white storks do, the tail feathers are fanned)
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stork flew away from the nest
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continuation:

11.02.2025

You can hear the voice of the little black stork on the camera. It's coming. The white ones are there too. by our Macska



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continuation

18.02.2025 https://www.badische-zeitung.de/fotos-d ... dem-gotten
"A black stork is on the road in Breisgau. A BZ reader documented his visit to Umkirch. And the stork camera in Gottenheim shows that it also feels comfortable on the church tower."

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PHOTO Monika Zimmermann-Meier https://ais.badische-zeitung.de/piece/1 ... -w-980.jpg

11.02.2025 the mentioned interview https://www.badische-zeitung.de/schwarz ... ekuenstler

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STREET VIEW https://maps.app.goo.gl/5ps4UJ9t2fFo7fb78 Google Street View 8 Kirchstraße Gottenheim, Baden-Württemberg

PHOTOS: http://www.storchenelke.de/webcam_stoer ... enheim.htm
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