SPAIN Tajo Internacional (Natalio/M and Zica/F)

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July 21
Hello everyone :-)

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Tajete last seen on the nest on 08.07.2025 https://www.ciconianigra.sk/viewtopic.p ... 274#p49274
and maybe here is our fledging visible on the screen on 09.07.2025 https://www.ciconianigra.sk/viewtopic.p ... 328#p49328
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- ​​10.51.10 female Zica, 10.57.03 male Natalio in (or vice versa? I need to check it - later)
- ​​it seems someone unwanted is nearby
- 10.58.24 N. out

edited:
vice versa, thx Maria! :)
Natalio - Zica - Z. out

edit 2:
11:28 AM Maria Lewandowska​​
- Mariko ja już nie podejmuję się 100% identyfikacji - brak znaków szczególnych, Natalio nie ma piórka
- Marika, I can no longer make a 100% identification - there are no distinguishing marks, Natalia has no that feathers
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Re: SPAIN Tajo Internacional (Natalio/M and Zica/F)

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- 11.09.28 N. is calling again
- 11.09.47 Zica is back
- 11.11.31 one of them out (Natalio to me)

continuation
- 11.37.29 the second stork out (female out)
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Re: SPAIN Tajo Internacional (Natalio/M and Zica/F)

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11:31 AM Maria Lewandowska​​
- ...a może nie Zica, tylko jakaś inna🤭 / ...or maybe not Zica, but some other one🤭

11:33 AM marika marika
- ​​I already wrote to you that it's probably different female, but it would require a detailed comparison of photos
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12:34 PM Светлана Клюева​​
Мне этот длинный визит скорей кажется визитом самки. А два коротких визита это самец. Поведение встречи самца в поклоне - реверансе. Голос самки Её желание почесать перышки на шее во время разговора
Её постное рыхление дна гнезда, сразу вспоминается Зика за два дня до снесения яйца, как она рыхлила, готовясь к снесению первого яйца. Да и больно она лащеная, отдохнувшая выглядит.
​​постоянное

This long visit seems more like a female’s visit to me. And the two short visits — that’s the male. The male’s greeting behaviour is a bow — like a curtsey. The female’s voice. Her desire to scratch the feathers on her neck during the conversation.
Her gentle loosening of the nest bottom — it immediately brings to mind Zika two days before she laid her egg, how she was loosening it in preparation to lay the first egg. And she looks so well-groomed and rested.
Constant...

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only rings give us certainty (but subtle details/differences in appearance and behaviour can help us)
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Re: SPAIN Tajo Internacional (Natalio/M and Zica/F)

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I wrote this email today:

Estimados/as responsables del Parque Natural del Tajo Internacional:
Con tristeza y preocupación observamos ayer a un nadador y una embarcación con dos personas bajo el nido que está siendo transmitido en directo. Lamentablemente, el único polluelo de este año no ha vuelto a aparecer en el nido desde su segundo vuelo tardío por la noche (08.07). Sin embargo, el macho sigue visitando el nido casi a diario, e incluso la hembra ha sido vista de nuevo en él.
Este tipo de comportamiento podría, en mi opinión y según información de la literatura especializada, tener un impacto negativo en la nidificación de las cigüeñas negras.
Entendemos que proteger estas especies sensibles es una responsabilidad compartida, por lo que agradeceríamos mucho si se pudieran considerar medidas que ayuden a minimizar las posibles molestias durante la temporada de cría. Cualquier acción preventiva, como informar a los visitantes o reforzar la vigilancia en las zonas sensibles, sería de gran ayuda.
Agradecemos de antemano su comprensión y apoyo en la conservación de esta valiosa especie.
Reciban un cordial saludo,
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https://youtu.be/NFZytSekRCk?si=zcHttDQj_nl8w4dm

With sadness and concern, we observed yesterday a swimmer and a boat with two people under the nest, which is being broadcast live. Sadly, this year's only chick has not reappeared at the nest since its second flight late that evening (08.07). However, the male continues to visit the nest almost daily, and even the female has been seen there again.
This type of behaviour could, in my opinion and based on information from the specialised literature, have a negative impact on the nesting of black storks.
We understand that protecting these sensitive species is a shared responsibility, so we would greatly appreciate if measures could be considered to help minimise potential disturbances during the breeding season. Any preventative measures, such as informing visitors or strengthening surveillance in sensitive areas, would be greatly helpful.
We thank you in advance for your understanding and support in the conservation of this valuable species.
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Re: SPAIN Tajo Internacional (Natalio/M and Zica/F)

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Buenos días,
Le informamos que la zona donde se encuentra el nido forma parte de un área protegida y las actividades que se desarrollan en la misma se encuentran reguladas, para evitar las molestias durante el periodo reproductor a las especies amenazadas que se encuentran en este enclave.
Actualmente y hasta el 31 de julio, no están permitidos ni el acceso a las bermas (repisas) de la Cantera ni el baño, navegación o flotación en el área más próxima al nido (área sensible). Existe una boya de color amarillo en mitad del lago que marca el límite donde estas actividades no estarían permitidas durante todo el año.
A pesar de que las monitoras del Centro de Interpretación del Tajo Internacional proporcionan información a los visitantes que se acercan a este lugar, en algunas ocasiones algunos visitantes incumplen la regulación establecida y acceden durante el periodo reproductor al área indicada como sensible (normalmente con barcas o elementos flotantes). En el momento que se detecta la infracción, se avisa a los Agentes del Medio Natural para que se acerquen al lugar para disuadir y/o denunciar estos comportamientos, pero no siempre son detectados a tiempo o los Agentes no pueden acercarse al lugar con suficiente rapidez.
En cualquier caso, agradecemos mucho sus comentarios e haremos lo posible por reforzar las acciones preventivas para evitar este y otro tipo de molestias.
Atentamente,

We would like to inform you that the area where the nest is located is part of a protected zone, and the activities carried out there are regulated in order to avoid disturbances to the threatened species that inhabit this site during their breeding season.
Currently, and until July 31st, access to the berms (ledges) of the quarry, as well as swimming, boating, or floating in the area closest to the nest (sensitive area), is not permitted. A yellow buoy located in the middle of the lake marks the boundary beyond which these activities are prohibited throughout the year.
Although the guides at the Tajo Internacional Interpretation Center provide information to visitors who come to this location, on some occasions certain visitors disregard the established regulations and enter the designated sensitive area during the breeding period (usually using boats or floating devices). When a violation is detected, the Environmental Protection Officers are notified to come to the site to deter and/or report such behaviour, but not all infractions are detected in time, or the officers may not be able to reach the location quickly enough.
In any case, we greatly appreciate your comments and will do our best to strengthen preventive measures to avoid this and other types of disturbances.
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Re: SPAIN Tajo Internacional (Natalio/M and Zica/F)

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July 22
Hello everyone :-)

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Tajete last seen on the nest on 08.07.2025 https://www.ciconianigra.sk/viewtopic.p ... 274#p49274
and maybe here is our fledging visible on the screen on 09.07.2025 https://www.ciconianigra.sk/viewtopic.p ... 328#p49328
(btw. maiden flight on 07.07 - 69 days old)
female Zica last seen on the nest on 23.06 - to me the current female is most probably no Zica
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- ​​11.15.35 Natalio
edit: the NEW female arrived first (new in my opinion)
​​- 11.19.52 female
edit: male arrived

thanks to our MariaL for let me know (I still have grandchildren here, so I'm watching the cameras and posting on the forum only quickly)

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The name of the black stork chick “Tajete” is derived from the name Parque Natural del Tajo Internacional (International Tagus Natural Park), where the stork’s nest is located.

Name derivation (AI answered):
- Tajo – the name of the Tagus River (Portuguese: Tejo), which forms part of the border between Spain and Portugal and flows through the park.
- Tajete – the name is a diminutive or poetic variation of the word “Tajo” (in Spanish, such names or nicknames are often formed by adding suffixes like -ete).

So, Tajete could be loosely translated as “little Tajo” or “the one from Tajo,” referencing the chick’s origin in the Tajo/Tagus River area.
It is a symbolic name that connects the stork to the natural park where its nest is located.
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18.23.42/43 - 18.27.40

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